Gabriela Nguyen discusses how children have transitioned from a play-based childhood to one largely defined by digital interaction.

What happens when you grow up as the smartphone generation and then decide to put the phone down? In this episode, Olivia sits down with Gabriela Nguyen, founder of Appstinence, a Gen Z-led movement fighting to reclaim what we've lost to our screens. Together they dig into the real cost of a childhood shaped by devices, why social media has quietly rewired how an entire generation connects, and what it actually feels like to live without an iPhone in 2026.